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Bar Council Forum: Why we still fail to understand one another (update 5.45pm)

Update 5.45pm: You won’t find me making excuses for anyone who behaved badly during this incident. Calls to storm a building and other such nonsense are inexcusable. That said, don’t forget to read very carefully the rest of the story as well, and note who said what, and who did what.

The other thing all should look out for in the aftermath: who is saying (”boring”) things that may help the healing process, and who are saying vengeful, lepas-stim things to pander to popular sentiment and score some political points. This is a time to lead public opinion, not follow it. Big picture all, big picture; it is a time for statesmen, not for street fighters.

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There is bound to be a severe ripples of disappointment surrounding the outcome of the Bar Council Forum on Conversion to Islam.

Before we harden ourselves into the same battle lines that have been drawn time and again, let us see if there we can traverse difficult roads to reach whatever middle ground may be left.

Proponents of religious freedom and non-Muslims in particular are likely to view the incident as a blow towards inter-religious harmony, the rights of non-Muslims, and mature dialogue.

I confess that to an extent, I share the disappointment of those who feel that an opportunity to engage carefully and rationally in a meaningful exchange of perspectives from the entire spectrum of opinion over these contentious and impassioned issues has been lost.

Nonetheless, I would also invite those who see this as a black and white battle between those who would seek to encourage inter-religious understanding and harmony and those who seek to quash it to pause for thought. It is simply not that straightforward.


To understand, sacrifice

A considered survey of history will likely demonstrate that mutual understanding between parties that have different interests is seldom built without stepping outside one’s ideological comfort zones. In other words, unless we intend to impose it by force, we cannot expect a sustainable peace on purely our own terms.

I think this applies to both sides of the fence dividing current sentiment on the forum.

The question that I think is most important for Malaysians concerned about this issue is: how much are we willing to sacrifice to truly understand one another?

That such an understanding is lacking seems fairly obvious; Saturday morning clearly attests to that.

The Bar Council should be lauded for attempting to further such an understanding through their forum. However, the backlash they unfortunately suffered suggests that this attempt was made on their own terms; an attempt to appreciate the feelings of others was definitely present, but sadly it may not have proved to have been enough.

True understanding cannot be achieved unless all parties feel comfortable being part of the process.

It is unfortunately not at the end of the day relevant, that the discomfort of certain parties may arise from things that do not seem rational to the rest.

In hindsight, the mutual understanding that the Bar Council attempted to further was a doomed project. Is this their fault for not reaching out in the right way? Or does the fault lay in the protesters for not being open-minded enough to the process?

Once again, the stark truth is that your feeling or mine on these questions are not what truly matters.

What truly matters is that we continue to think of a successful way for us to reach that mutual understanding, even though it may require painful compromises on both sides.


Walking before running

The primary sacrifice that need be made is ideological; we simply cannot assume others to have the same ideological framework that we do. If we truly want to achieve understanding, we must understand the passions of others, no matter how illogical or irrational they may seem to us, and respond to them accordingly and effectively.

Once we can start planning strategies to achieve understanding that are based firmly on an appreciation for the true feelings of others, a glimmer of hope for success will show itself.

As a non-Muslim myself, perhaps I can articulate this better for fellow non-Muslims. We must understand that what seems to us on paper and in reality as a harmless forum that is not only entirely sincere in its attempt to further interreligious harmony, but also a forum that is concerned primarily with technical issues of law (and thus in essence neutral), is simply not understood that way by others.

This is a sentiment that would be foolhardy to judge too harshly.

Attempting to force those made uncomfortable by the forum to see said forum in the neutral light you or I might by exercising the mighty hammer of logic and reason is likely to be futile. These are not the bricks on which understanding is built.

Politics teaches us that perception, tragically, must sometimes come first.

We must instead understand and fully appreciate the gap that already exists between those who feel strongly on these issues. We must know where and how to begin; we must walk before we can run.

I stand firm in my commitment to the need for dialogue and remain unconvinced that sweeping things under the carpet is any foundation for lasting harmony. However, while many may share goals, our tactics sometimes need refinement.

Instead of running with our passions, let us consider again how we should walk. What are the paths we can take to reach a place where the more moderate from both sides of the fence (and there are more than you think) feel comfortable coming together?

Finding these paths require great effort; finding the right venue, the right topic, the right convener - all these speak of negotiations, compromise, and most of all, headaches. Nonetheless, they remain the crucial elements for finding the exact spot in which the smallest seeds of true understanding and dialogue can be planted and grown.

Patience in finding that right meeting ground or the right aegis for a discussion, I feel, will be met with marvelous results.


Hope

As with every word I have ever written, I invite Malaysians not to despair, but to hope.

Some may be disillusioned with Pakatan leaders who appeared on the ‘wrong’ side of the divide that Saturday morning. I call to mind the manner in which older democracies do not have such things as a singular party policy on any one issue, but consist of leaders each with their own conscience.

Plurality of opinion is the hallmark of any mature society, and if we can persevere, we too will reap the best fruits of diversity.

Yes, it is a long hard road; and yes, we will continue to be frustrated repeatedly along the way.

Still, as with all those religious, have faith. Malaysians, experience suggests, are not given to intentionally offending others. Once we take courage to step outside our convictions for but a moment in order to understand those of others, we may see how and why we continually offend one another - and thus take the first step towards healing.

Herald: Malaysians prove their reasonablness

Malaysiakini reports that the government has ok’ed the Herald, without imposing any conditions on the use of the word ‘Allah.’

Good for the Herald. Here’s my political take on the matter, which is purely speculative.

Johari Baharom and gang think that by starting this controversy, they can score points with their Umno/Malay base.

Their reversal on this matter probably means that it didn’t score them as many points as they thought it would. It turns out that Malaysians have once again proven that they are not as bigotted as Umno/BN wants them to be and are instead a rational lot that is open to mature dialogue over sensitive issues.
Good for Malaysians :)

So congrats to the Herald, I hope they hold fast in their endeavours to uphold justice, as well as respect the sensitivities surrounding prostelysation to Muslims (not that they haven’t before).

I hope the rest of us are inspired by how we can resolve crises through considered and respectful dialogue, without resorting to polemics :)

ps- Here’s another well considered piece on the subject by Penarik Beca, a prominent blogger and nice guy who’s had a long relationship with Pas.

La ilaha illallah? Semantics and Strategy

Many views have been proffered on the Herald/”Allah” controversy. So many in fact that I barely feel the need to add my own.

Early on, Hafiz offers the difference between proper and common nouns, while Tricia - as I would - turns first to Wikipedia to trace the etymology of the word Allah.

Three other things I came across that seem helpful is this Malaysiakini letter, an op-ed by Francis Siah as well as Bob’s well considered piece. All of these seem very well thought out, and just as importantly, very sincere. I think Bob’s views and analysis most closely approximate my own.

I reproduce some of his argument.

The general reaction towards the impending non-renewal of the publication permit of the Roman Catholic Church’s newspaper, Herald, has generally taken two main approaches :

* The Muslim Perspective: The assertion of the right to restrict the use of the term Allah by non-Muslims when referring to God in the Malay language due to fears of confusion and the lingering suspicion that it is meant to proselytise Muslims

* The Christian Perspective: The assertion of the right to use the term Allah by Malaysian Christians when referring to God in the Malay language due to the precedent set by Arab speaking Christians and the lingering suspicion that this is meant to further restrict the freedom to profess their faith

What troubles me is that neither perspective attempts to seek to breach the barrier that divides us as a community and approach the issue with the presumption of goodwill on the part of either parties. In fact, there is an underlying presumption of ill-will with Christians assuming that this is another attempt to undermine their freedom to profess their faith as they see fit and Muslims assuming that there is an insidious attempt to proselytise their brethren by the Christian community.

An appeal to an Arabic precedent in using the term Allah is, in my humble opinion, inherently flawed.

On the other hand, the accusation that Christians may have insidious designs in translating the term God to Allah is equally flawed.

Check him out to read the full argument.

If we lived in my ideal world, no one would care who used which name for which deity.

Seeing that we don’t and people do, I suppose we must balance our priorities and the cost benefit calculations. For instance, what is lost and what is gained by replacing “Allah” with “Tuhan.”

I’m sure some parties would be delighted to see the end of all Christian literature in Malay, but this is something I believe should be resisted.

At the risk of being disappointing, and to avoid my usual BN bashing (which even I get bored of every once in a blue moon :P :) , and possibly because I’m not hardworking enough, I am content to leave it at that for now. I do recommend you read those pieces, esp Bob’s I suppose :)

One of the writers above also sent around a really funny sms or e-mail with regard to this matter, I think you’ll have to ask Li Tsin to send to you or whether it’s ok to reproduce :)

With this done, at some point I must endeavour to make sense of this confusing Subashini judgement.

Samy, Anwar & the Kg Rawa Temple

Updated with KeADILan statement below

Malaysiakini:

Samy - who is also works minister - said that Anwar had even threatened the Hindus to accept the government’s stand in the 1998 Kg Rawa temple issue in Penang.

“He (Anwar) threatened the Hindus there to accept whatever he said, otherwise he said no temple bells will be sounded in Penang. This is what he is,” Samy asserted.

In March 27, 1998, there was a tense stand-off when Muslims emerged from Friday prayers in an adjacent mosque and marched in numbers to the Sri Raja Raja Madurai Veeran temple in Kampung Rawa.

Muslims in the area had complained that the temple - which was planned for expansion - rang their prayer bells too loudly and the antagonism resulted in a clash between hundreds of Hindus and Muslims.

Following this, four people were injured, other Hindu temples and Muslim mosques were attacked and nearly 200 rioters were arrested.

The dispute was later settled when the state government provided an alternative site for the temple in Jalan SP Chelliah.

Conveniently, there is a video on exactly this issue:

I guess it’s up to you to take DSAI’s or Samy’s word for it.

I got a chance to read Samy’s original statement attacking DSAI. I have to say that it was pretty hillarious :)

They’re obviously feeling some serious heat after DSAI’s tour of the north which saw huge multiracial crowds. This is just the latest of Samy’s latest string of problems that are looking to topple his career.

The language of the statement was also atrociously sub-standard. Being a Minister, he should consider getting a press secretary with a command of English at least five times better than his own, not just two times better.

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Dr. Xavier’s Statement, which I thought was worth reproducing in full, esp for the bolded part:

    Samy Vellu’s Attacks are a Deflection

Samy Vellu’s recent attack on Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim points to the ever shrinking credibility of both Samy Vellu and MIC. Such undignified outbreaks clearly indicate that the legitimacy of both are facing an all time low.

Samy Vellu accuses Dato’ Seri Anwar of acting in a racist manner in the Kampung Rawa incident of 1998. The truth however is that Dato’ Seri Anwar was the only government leader who dared to go down to the ground to help resolve the ethnic and religious tensions during the incident.

He did so even against the advice of the police and neither Samy Vellu nor a single other Umno leader was willing enough to brave being present at the site. Dato’ Seri Anwar insisted on meeting both parties in the conflict to negotiate a resolution to the crisis, no matter how difficult. His solution of finding a proper alternative site for the temple eventually succeeded in defusing the hostilities.

This attitude of fairness and justice is what informs KeADILan’s approach to ethnic and religious relations in Malaysia, which emphasies dialogue and negotiation as opposed to the government’s current strategy of using violence to suppress freedom of expression.

In pursuit of these ideals, KeADILan’s multiracial platform allows Indians, Malays, Chinese, Ibans, Kadazans and others to sit at the same level to resolve Malaysian problems, rather than the multi-tiered BN system where certain parties are more equal than others and every problem is an racial problem.

Race-based BN parties can only score political points by demonising other races. Since Samy Vellu is clearly too afraid to criticize Umno openly in any way, he is now desperately trying to deflect criticism to Dato’ Seri Anwar. This is a cowardly attempt to hide his own failure in standing up to the racist and corrupt excesses of Umno, which is largely to blame for the current plight faced by the Indian community and by all poor Malaysians.

Our ardent commitment to moderation and equality for all Malaysians has led Samy Vellu and MIC to accuse Dato’ Seri Anwar of being anti-Hindu while Umno simultaneously spreads thousands of leaflets saying Dato’ Seri Anwar has become too pro-Hindu.

The fact that BN cannot seem to agree on which is which can only mean that Dato’ Seri Anwar and KeADILan are holding firm to their dedication to a truly multiracial Malaysia.

Dr. Xavier Jayakumar
Deputy Secretary General
Parti Keadilan Rakyat

Bolehland: Kesucian Agama dan Sistem Kehakiman Harus Sama-sama Dipertahankan

Artikel terkini saya di Bolehland.com berkaitan dengan soal agama dan Tun Ahmad Fairuz. Enjoy! :)

Some wisdom on the Islamic State issue

Gonna plagiarise 3 posts :) -

If you haven’t, check out Li Tsin’s heartfelt piece, which I find expouses the mature, big picture looking approach that is refreshing to hear from any non-Muslim. Excerpts:


I frankly couldn’t care less whether politicians want to label this country an Islamic state or not.

As a student who was exposed to social theories and jurisprudence during her postgraduate days (and got tired of it), I cannot help but depart from a theoretical argument to a more practical one.

Let’s put aside arguments about semantics, post-structuralism and social construction. Instead, strip the phrase down to its bare basics and ask the question, what do we want from the state and what kind of state do we perceive we have?

If an ‘Islamic state’ will promise me fundamental freedoms and equality for myself and others then let there be an Islamic state. But if it leaves my fellow Malaysians unable to live fulfilled lives, I will fight it to the end.

However, a secular state run by bigots is no better - if the past 20-something years of my life have been under a secular state but laden with socio-political-economic-religious inequalities, I’d rather not have it and I will fight it to the end too.

Fight until we have a free and just state. I want to see it. I want to feel it. Until then, labels are just immaterial.

That’s my polytikus!

haha, can’t get enough of ratat lah.. :P :D

Also out today, Ronnie Liu - whose writing and commitment to opposition unity I can’t help but feel sets him apart from his peers.

When Najib declared that Malaysia is an Islamic State, I said we should not take him seriously. Just ignore him because this guy knows nothing about the concept of Islamic State. he was actually up to no good. He’s banking on this issue to ‘neutralise’ his Mongolian problem.

And now Abdullah also declares that Malaysia is an Islamic State.

I say just ignore him. I believe he is also up to no good. He knows his popularity is going down fast. Like Najib, he is also trying to make ‘an issue out of no issue’.

Trust me. These chaps have no new issues to attract voters. They are banking on the Islamic State issue to improve their Islamic credential and hoping to attract some Malay votes out of it. And at the same see whether Pas and DAP would fall into their traps.

Imagine Pas starts to claim ownership on the concept of Islamic State. The entire Non-Muslim community will be worked up unnecessary. Mind you, the party has not raise the issue for more than four years now. Why should they dance along with these stooges in Umno now?

And then imagine DAP starts to whack Pas instead of telling Umno off .

Thank God, the scenarios painted by me here did not take place. We should continue to ignore both Abdullah and Najib. Let the two be the laughing stocks. We have more important issues to take care of and we have no time for them.

I’m pretty much with him on this one, and bravo again, for the atypical stand :)

Also, in a great Malaysiakini letter today:

You can count on the DAP to not take this declaration sitting down. The DAP will start the hopeless debate with the BN government about the ‘seribu satu dalil’ (the one thousand and one reasons) why Malaysia is not an Islamic state based entirely on law and historical facts.

The BN government in turn, will only need to show that the DAP is indeed anti-Islam and in turn anti-Malay (in Malaysia, Malay = Islam). This in turn will make PKR, which is cooperating with the DAP, also anti-Islam and anti-Malay for working with the DAP.

Since, PAS is working with PKR, they, too, are part of this anti-Islamic movement. I’m sure the BN government will try and throw in a Jewish connection somewhere down the line. Just to make things a little more global.

The only way the DAP can hope to win in this debate is to counter the Islamic state claim by making its own declaration that Malaysia is a ‘corrupt state’.
I’m sure they have ample evidence of this. Take it to the next level and claim that the BN government is insulting Islam by calling Malaysia an Islamic state.

After all, all the bad things they are doing can’t be attributed to Islam. Give all the good examples of how an Islamic state should work and show people that the claim is simply not true because of the BN government actions.

Simpler still, just ignore the declaration and move on to some more pressing issues like the declining economy and increasing corruption.

Well said, Mat Bintang!

Remember, watch out for Umno swinging hard to the right, and burning/dividing Malaysia (esp non-bumi Malaysia) in the unholy process.

But just because these statements are meant to divide, I’m not 100% sure ignoring them is quite right either.

We must avoid being trapped into a counterproductive polemic, but in light of what Chief Justice Tun Fairuz said about abolishing the Common Law and other such nonsense, there are serious undercurrents to take the quest to divide beyond uttering divisive words, and actually installing permanent cleavages.

So be on your guard, and register to vote!!

Abdullah’s ‘Negara Islam’ traps

My analysis is simple, and will be elaborated more soon.

Basically, I think there is an ongoing conspiracy to divide Malaysia.

Sdr. Lim Kit Siang was kind enough to reproduce the whole written reply, which if you scrutinise, will give you some idea why theSun ran the mild-mannered “M’sia neither secular nor theocratic country” whereas Malaysiakini yesterday ran:

PM: Yes, we ARE an Islamic state

Departing from his previous ‘not secular, not theocratic’ stand, Abdullah today specifically said that Malaysia was an Islamic state in an answer to a question in Parliament.

I’m proud to note however, that Malaysiakini has today produced a slightly more balanced analysis, which speaks to the heart of the matter:

However, Abdullah could have meant that Malaysia was an “Islamic country” as his statement was in Bahasa Malaysia and “negara Islam” could mean either ‘Islamic state’ or ‘Islamic country’.

My analysis is that Abdullah/Umno is purposely vague, and purposely - with malicious intent - trying to stir up this debate and incite heated exchanges; pretending to clamp down on such debate, while all the while promoting it more in the least healthy manner possible.

Abdullah and his unholy gang knows how this issue can polarise Malaysians. He couldn’t care less about losing the non-Malay vote; the only ‘face’ he gives is not to use the English term “Islamic state” but instead uses the ambiguous “negara Islam.”

This way, he seeks to undercut Umno’s old enemy Pas, and gun for the Holy Grail of Kelantan.

Blur as he may be, Abdullah (probably) knows that if he can drag the Opposition into polemics and divisive issues like this one, Umno is the only victor.

It is incumbent on us not to fall for this trap, so take care my colleagues! This battle is not worth ‘winning’ (how on earth does one ‘win’ this fake battle anyway?) if it means costing us the war.

Umno is swinging far to the right, pandering to the most divisive sentiments out there. This reckless lack of concern for collateral damage should give you an idea of what will happen if we keep letting them run this country.

As for the Islamic State? I really couldn’t have said it better than polytikus@bolehland :)