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		<title>By: layman</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206300</link>
		<dc:creator>layman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shall i said Pakatan have no vision,leadership and master plan, imagine what will happen if they do win GE13,chaos i can assured you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shall i said Pakatan have no vision,leadership and master plan, imagine what will happen if they do win GE13,chaos i can assured you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Saint</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206228</link>
		<dc:creator>Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to vote for PAS for they would want to unite with UMNO. Once they unite with PAS they turn corrupt &amp; liars. 
take note...People not voting for PKR or neither DAP. Its all PAS. So the fault lies on PAS. 
A lesson to PAS if they would want to unite or work along with UMNO. 
Dont talk about internal squabble ...BN component is much worst. I as voter not vote PAS as they didnt manage to convince us as sincere &amp; not easily manipulate by the liars &amp; corrupt UMNO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to vote for PAS for they would want to unite with UMNO. Once they unite with PAS they turn corrupt &amp; liars.<br />
take note&#8230;People not voting for PKR or neither DAP. Its all PAS. So the fault lies on PAS.<br />
A lesson to PAS if they would want to unite or work along with UMNO.<br />
Dont talk about internal squabble &#8230;BN component is much worst. I as voter not vote PAS as they didnt manage to convince us as sincere &amp; not easily manipulate by the liars &amp; corrupt UMNO.</p>
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		<title>By: veryupset</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206224</link>
		<dc:creator>veryupset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok... 5435. Good number to buy yah....!!!!

Anyway, this number is good enough to &quot;WAKE UP&quot; Pakatan.....!!!

Ever since certain states have been won by them, they &quot;ARE NOT&quot; working &amp; behaving like team players...!!

Next GE we are screwed...! The rakyat only has BN &amp; Pakatan to choose from.

Any 3rd Force....???????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230; 5435. Good number to buy yah&#8230;.!!!!</p>
<p>Anyway, this number is good enough to &#8220;WAKE UP&#8221; Pakatan&#8230;..!!!</p>
<p>Ever since certain states have been won by them, they &#8220;ARE NOT&#8221; working &amp; behaving like team players&#8230;!!</p>
<p>Next GE we are screwed&#8230;! The rakyat only has BN &amp; Pakatan to choose from.</p>
<p>Any 3rd Force&#8230;.???????</p>
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		<title>By: Antares</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206204</link>
		<dc:creator>Antares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciate your clear, calm, conscientious voice, Nat. I hope they take heed of what you&#039;re saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate your clear, calm, conscientious voice, Nat. I hope they take heed of what you&#8217;re saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Leithaisor</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206177</link>
		<dc:creator>Leithaisor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, Bagan Pinang is more likely an anomaly than indicator of voting trends nationwide.

And Moon-Rocket Feng Shui? I think I&#039;d better reserve my comments rather than offend those who believe in such matters.

Bagan Pinang was a do-or-die situation for Najib, what with the UMNO GA just a few days after the by-election and Pakatan winning 7 out of 8 previous by-elections since March 2008. Even Batang Ai is a questionable win for BN.

Najib was desperate enough to field a candidate who had already been found corrupt by his own party. No amount of &quot;technical&quot;, &quot;second chance&quot; rubbish can fool anyone, not even UMNO die-hards. But I think Najib had his back to the wall,pushed there by members of his own party who were threatening to boycott if Isa was not fielded. 

Can you imagine Dr M ever allowing such rebellion,much less give in to the demands of the rebels? How weak does that show Najib to be within his own party?

Then there is the massive postal votes boost which benefitted Isa together with what Salahuddin reprtedly said was a different electoral roll being used. And despite the government saying about no campaigning by any party in military camps, Isa was still photographed shaking the hands of soldiers in one of the camps.

But the proven corrupt Isa did win against PAS&#039; Zulkefly.

No doubt, all the candies dished out made a large impact on the desparately poor rural Indians who formed about 20% of the electorate. Never mind that the goodies were paid for with the rakyat&#039;s funds, and more importantly, the goodies were the Indians&#039; due in the first place. For folks who live with so little, anything like the windfall surely engenders gratitude. If i had been in their place, that&#039;s what I&#039;d probably have done.

And the Chinese? Even PAS&#039;own campaign manager Salahuddin admitted today that the Chinese were teaching Pakatan/PAS a lesson. As a Chiness, I have already stated before my feelings about Hasan and the two Nasharuddins, and their ultra-Islamic state agenda, with the allegations about Hasan&#039;s hidden personal agenda. 

Then there is PKR&#039;s infamous Zulkifli Nordin, with his continual lop-sided rantings.

DAP has also had its failings - I personally found Guan Eng&#039;s handling of Kg Buah Pala highly incompentant, and his actions too alooft and proud. Jeff Ooi should also be more careful with his words and attitude. I cannot help but comparing these two with the humble but firm Nik Aziz. 

Let&#039;s not forget that many Malays still view such humility with great esteem. A lot of good, a lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifice can easily be undone by a few careless haughty words. 

I cannot find reason to disagree with those who say that Pakatan&#039;s 3 component parties have become too arrogant and over-confident, especially DAP and PAS. 

Those who have voiced such opinions as me - that Pakatan needs to buckup or face disaster - are not alone. Kit Siang himself said essentially the same thing today.
 
But all that being said, I&#039;d still place hope in Pakatan, that Anwar, Kit Siang and Nik Aziz can revamp the coalition back into a Pakatan every Malaysian can and should vote for. 

Hopefully they&#039;d give the likes of Hasan Ali, the two Nasharuddins, Zulkifli Nordin and Guan Eng stern dressing downs, and issue them ultimatums to toe the line, get their acts together, stop their nonsense, or GET OUT.

As you yourself wrote, Nat,

  “For Pakatan, I believe the time has come for the 
  component parties to put its eggs in the Pakatan 
  basket, and not their own.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, Bagan Pinang is more likely an anomaly than indicator of voting trends nationwide.</p>
<p>And Moon-Rocket Feng Shui? I think I&#8217;d better reserve my comments rather than offend those who believe in such matters.</p>
<p>Bagan Pinang was a do-or-die situation for Najib, what with the UMNO GA just a few days after the by-election and Pakatan winning 7 out of 8 previous by-elections since March 2008. Even Batang Ai is a questionable win for BN.</p>
<p>Najib was desperate enough to field a candidate who had already been found corrupt by his own party. No amount of &#8220;technical&#8221;, &#8220;second chance&#8221; rubbish can fool anyone, not even UMNO die-hards. But I think Najib had his back to the wall,pushed there by members of his own party who were threatening to boycott if Isa was not fielded. </p>
<p>Can you imagine Dr M ever allowing such rebellion,much less give in to the demands of the rebels? How weak does that show Najib to be within his own party?</p>
<p>Then there is the massive postal votes boost which benefitted Isa together with what Salahuddin reprtedly said was a different electoral roll being used. And despite the government saying about no campaigning by any party in military camps, Isa was still photographed shaking the hands of soldiers in one of the camps.</p>
<p>But the proven corrupt Isa did win against PAS&#8217; Zulkefly.</p>
<p>No doubt, all the candies dished out made a large impact on the desparately poor rural Indians who formed about 20% of the electorate. Never mind that the goodies were paid for with the rakyat&#8217;s funds, and more importantly, the goodies were the Indians&#8217; due in the first place. For folks who live with so little, anything like the windfall surely engenders gratitude. If i had been in their place, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;d probably have done.</p>
<p>And the Chinese? Even PAS&#8217;own campaign manager Salahuddin admitted today that the Chinese were teaching Pakatan/PAS a lesson. As a Chiness, I have already stated before my feelings about Hasan and the two Nasharuddins, and their ultra-Islamic state agenda, with the allegations about Hasan&#8217;s hidden personal agenda. </p>
<p>Then there is PKR&#8217;s infamous Zulkifli Nordin, with his continual lop-sided rantings.</p>
<p>DAP has also had its failings &#8211; I personally found Guan Eng&#8217;s handling of Kg Buah Pala highly incompentant, and his actions too alooft and proud. Jeff Ooi should also be more careful with his words and attitude. I cannot help but comparing these two with the humble but firm Nik Aziz. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that many Malays still view such humility with great esteem. A lot of good, a lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifice can easily be undone by a few careless haughty words. </p>
<p>I cannot find reason to disagree with those who say that Pakatan&#8217;s 3 component parties have become too arrogant and over-confident, especially DAP and PAS. </p>
<p>Those who have voiced such opinions as me &#8211; that Pakatan needs to buckup or face disaster &#8211; are not alone. Kit Siang himself said essentially the same thing today.</p>
<p>But all that being said, I&#8217;d still place hope in Pakatan, that Anwar, Kit Siang and Nik Aziz can revamp the coalition back into a Pakatan every Malaysian can and should vote for. </p>
<p>Hopefully they&#8217;d give the likes of Hasan Ali, the two Nasharuddins, Zulkifli Nordin and Guan Eng stern dressing downs, and issue them ultimatums to toe the line, get their acts together, stop their nonsense, or GET OUT.</p>
<p>As you yourself wrote, Nat,</p>
<p>  “For Pakatan, I believe the time has come for the<br />
  component parties to put its eggs in the Pakatan<br />
  basket, and not their own.”</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Luqman</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206141</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Luqman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the important significance of Bagan Pinang&#039;s result is urban, university educated and middle-class Malaysians will continue to shun BN, which means in due time, BN and UMNO especially will be the party of the people in the rural areas and the less-educated. PAS and PKR will continue to attract young and highly educated Malay professionals while UMNO will continue to have only those with second and third grade SPM results whose lives are wholly dependent on government contracts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the important significance of Bagan Pinang&#8217;s result is urban, university educated and middle-class Malaysians will continue to shun BN, which means in due time, BN and UMNO especially will be the party of the people in the rural areas and the less-educated. PAS and PKR will continue to attract young and highly educated Malay professionals while UMNO will continue to have only those with second and third grade SPM results whose lives are wholly dependent on government contracts.</p>
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		<title>By: chong</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206138</link>
		<dc:creator>chong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, most malaysians are crooks. let&#039;s put it this way.

let have more increase in the petrol price! more barang naik!!!
pls since rakyat like it so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, most malaysians are crooks. let&#8217;s put it this way.</p>
<p>let have more increase in the petrol price! more barang naik!!!<br />
pls since rakyat like it so much.</p>
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		<title>By: vengai</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206135</link>
		<dc:creator>vengai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5435 majority.Is it? A landslide victory for UBN Regime?

Corrupt Isa get:  8013 (-3521 postal he gets 4492)
Zul Pas get      :  2578 (-601 postal he gets 1977)

If public vote conted (As we know how postal cast)

Isa corrupt get 4492 and Zul Pas get 1977.
so 4492-1977=2515 majority only.
2008 election majority is 2333. So 2515-2333=182

The UBN only gets 182 extra votes. Thats it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5435 majority.Is it? A landslide victory for UBN Regime?</p>
<p>Corrupt Isa get:  8013 (-3521 postal he gets 4492)<br />
Zul Pas get      :  2578 (-601 postal he gets 1977)</p>
<p>If public vote conted (As we know how postal cast)</p>
<p>Isa corrupt get 4492 and Zul Pas get 1977.<br />
so 4492-1977=2515 majority only.<br />
2008 election majority is 2333. So 2515-2333=182</p>
<p>The UBN only gets 182 extra votes. Thats it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Yap</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206133</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Yap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***The affliction of Chinese Feng Shui in Pakatan Rakyat***

The problem within Pakatan Rakyat is indeed inevitable. It&#039;s NOT becos&#039; of racial issues, different ideologies or any other factors.

The constant squabble &amp; bickering within Pakatan Rakyat is indeed due to the affliction of the three official symbol of these 3 respective parties:

1) DAP - ROCKET
2) PAS - MOON
3) PKR - MOON

If put ROCKET &amp; MOON together, the conclusion is BAD NEWS!!! 

ROCKET is known to constantly travel to the MOON &amp; thus conquering MOON. As long as DAP is being placed together with PAS &amp; PKR, we can be sure there will be NEVER ENDING problems. This is due to the Feng Shui impact of the ROCKET (DAP) constantly trying to OUT-DO &amp; OUT PERFORM the MOON (PAS &amp; PKR)

The only way for Pakatan Rakyat to excel is to &#039;GET RID OF DAP FROM PAKATAN RAKYAT&#039;.

DAP, PAS &amp; PKR is a bad mixture for success!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***The affliction of Chinese Feng Shui in Pakatan Rakyat***</p>
<p>The problem within Pakatan Rakyat is indeed inevitable. It&#8217;s NOT becos&#8217; of racial issues, different ideologies or any other factors.</p>
<p>The constant squabble &amp; bickering within Pakatan Rakyat is indeed due to the affliction of the three official symbol of these 3 respective parties:</p>
<p>1) DAP &#8211; ROCKET<br />
2) PAS &#8211; MOON<br />
3) PKR &#8211; MOON</p>
<p>If put ROCKET &amp; MOON together, the conclusion is BAD NEWS!!! </p>
<p>ROCKET is known to constantly travel to the MOON &amp; thus conquering MOON. As long as DAP is being placed together with PAS &amp; PKR, we can be sure there will be NEVER ENDING problems. This is due to the Feng Shui impact of the ROCKET (DAP) constantly trying to OUT-DO &amp; OUT PERFORM the MOON (PAS &amp; PKR)</p>
<p>The only way for Pakatan Rakyat to excel is to &#8216;GET RID OF DAP FROM PAKATAN RAKYAT&#8217;.</p>
<p>DAP, PAS &amp; PKR is a bad mixture for success!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ganesan Pillay</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2009/10/12/5435/comment-page-1/#comment-206132</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganesan Pillay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many factors that had brought about this loss in Bagan pinang bye election. 1. The pakatan Rayaat were becoming over confident. 2. The PAS posture in Selangor causing unnecessary friction which is often highlighted by MSM. 3. The role of Makkal sakthi contributing significantly. 4. The BN election machinery was all out as this loss for BN will end UNMO&#039;s supremacy. 4. The goodies promised by all the cabinet ministers were crucial in shifting, the raya open houses the deepavali goodies for the people in the ladangs made them vote for BN. In hindsight this loss for PAS will bring more positive approach as PAS has to work with other parties to win. PAS should use &quot;PAS for ALL&quot; and really should be seen to do more for others in this case Indians. On the other end it is now that BN must provide more goodies to the Indian community, since the indians have delivered their votes. Najib has promised to do much for Indians. He has the responsibility to deliver, falling which the Indians will not support him. More goodies must come in the form of govt jobs, better standard of living for the indians, schlarships for marginalised indians, overall better prospects. So the indians will benefit from this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many factors that had brought about this loss in Bagan pinang bye election. 1. The pakatan Rayaat were becoming over confident. 2. The PAS posture in Selangor causing unnecessary friction which is often highlighted by MSM. 3. The role of Makkal sakthi contributing significantly. 4. The BN election machinery was all out as this loss for BN will end UNMO&#8217;s supremacy. 4. The goodies promised by all the cabinet ministers were crucial in shifting, the raya open houses the deepavali goodies for the people in the ladangs made them vote for BN. In hindsight this loss for PAS will bring more positive approach as PAS has to work with other parties to win. PAS should use &#8220;PAS for ALL&#8221; and really should be seen to do more for others in this case Indians. On the other end it is now that BN must provide more goodies to the Indian community, since the indians have delivered their votes. Najib has promised to do much for Indians. He has the responsibility to deliver, falling which the Indians will not support him. More goodies must come in the form of govt jobs, better standard of living for the indians, schlarships for marginalised indians, overall better prospects. So the indians will benefit from this election.</p>
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