Kugan, who was detained on Jan 15 on suspicion of being involved in stealing luxury cars in Sungai Chua, Kajang, and was brought to the Taipan police station on Tuesday where he suddenly collapsed and died while being questioned.
He had asked for a glass of water and threw up after drinking, then collapsed. The policemen present immediately summoned a doctor from a nearby clinic to examine Kugan, who was pronounced dead minutes later.
What. The. Fuck.
I’m not a medical professional, but have any of you *ever* seen anyone drink water, throw up, and then collapse and die? :|
Now, I’m an open minded man, and will willingly concede that I’m still in the dark as to a number of details.
But when our favourite policeman, Selangor CPO Khalid Bakar (of ‘no, we didn’t charge them while they were singing Negaraku’ fame), insists that Kugan died from ‘liquid in his lungs,’ you can’t blame me for being a bit suspicious.
Especially after Prabakar’s experience of police brutality, and his still missing cousin Solomon.
The following video and pictures of the victim speak a thousand words. (see more pictures here)
ps- We may see this matter raised in Parliament.
FUCK YOU Polis Diraja Malaysia!!!!
To my opinion, from ur answer…one of the reason could be ACUTE HEART ATTACK. How could a young man die from heart attack?. Your differential diagnosis for the cause for death for this man is wrong, in fact it should not be in the list at all. We are discussing abt 24 year old man not 84 year old man. Please do not tell me that you are a fresh graduate giving opinion here. Discuss my above point s with your senior and see why ur opinion is wrong.
Let me tell you all of you how prisoners or police detainees are treated in lock-up. ALL complaints are FAKE until proven otherwise. That’s the reason why many of them brought in to hospital at late stage. Furthermore all policeman are “legally: doctor in police station. The suspects must be screened by them b4 taken to see the real doctor. Worst most of this pt are seen my medical assistant who follow the instruction fo the policeman on what to do to the victim.
What happen to Kugan just the tip of the iceberg. Most of you only aware of the recent deaths.
What abt the “success” by Malaysian police in stopping a group of Indian “criminals” ON THE WAY TO COMMIT A CRIME( Any similarity to the movie. Minority Report). This case happened several years ago, all Indian (if not mistaken ..seven of them) inside the van were shot dead by the police with zero mortality on the police side because the victims FIRE AT THE POLICE FIRST. Police did their “own ” investigation and found not “issues”. But the victims family fought for justice and a real crime forensic investigation finally reveal the blunt true, NO BULLET WAS EVER FIRED FROM INSIDE THE CAR. ALL the bullet marks on the van ORIGINATED FROM OUTSIDE THE VAN!. Finally our Malaysian govt did out of court settelement with the victims family. A huge amount paid to them, all from tax payers money. Now, please tell me about UR OPINION ON THE FIRST POLICE investigation that found no “ISSUES” with the shotting
What about a mechanic who died after falling toilet in police station?. He was the ONLY suspect caught in the multi million ringgit robbery in a Maybank branch during Chinese New Year many years back. All police wittness said no beating by police. But in the end , the truth came out. He died from police beatings and the culprits were jailed(18 months only)
I stand firml;y on my words. The root cause for the problem is Malaysia police is not up to the mark with their counterparts in developed countries. They are dust if compared to the world famous FBI or Scotland Yard. Our policeman are not good in searching for proof, evidences or analysis of material in any cases. Our investigation method and technology is out of date. Only way for them to get the truth out from any suspect is by beating them up til death. To make the situations worst, our court accepts ” PERAKUAN TERTUDUH” despite stong objection from the defence lawyer that the perakuan was given under threat by the policeman.
The young man named Kugan was MURDERED until proven otherwise. Period
Hi all… I’m on of the victim of a f****ng idiot like kugan. So, i know the pain. The rest who support him will only know the pain if you face such iincident. Our country never loose a Doctor, Lawyer, Minister or what, but just a cheapskate criminal who could become a rapist or a murderer in the future. If I’m one of the victim of Kugan, this is the ending which I wanted to happen.
Hello Citizens Of Malaysia!!! WAKE UP!!! Police have saved you & your children from being robbed, raped or murdered in the future by such a criminal. I dont see any racial issue in this matter. As an Indian, I’m glad to born in Malaysia and I’m living a peaceful life. Unlike other countries with War and bomb blastings. I’m proud to be Malaysian Indian!!!! Cheers!
[...] story about this already being brought up by some infamous blogger such as Gallivanter, mahaguru58, jelas and also by some major online media worldwide. The name is Kugan Ananthan, who was arrested for [...]
the killing itself might be a cover-up. death man can’t talk. who knows what Kugan knew.
I WHO WITNESS THE DESTRUCTIONS // Jan 29, 2009 at 8:49 pm
BEKAS ANAK POLIS….. I THINK U JUST MAKING THIS UP…… NAK CARI PUBLISITI UNTUK HINDRAF… BANYAK SANGAT TENGOK CERITA TAMIL…
It is up to you to believe my story or not for I offer no evidence but myself. By the way, I do enjoy Tamil movies especially when their policemen are involved. The moment they apprehanded a suspect, they just ‘wallap’ him, it goes ‘dush, dush, dush, so fun la how they are so transparent and raw. I salute their movie director/producer. In our country, you just watch ‘Gerak Khas’, I’m sure you want to cry and kiss-ass every policeman you meet.
Let the POLICE do their investigation. Stop blaming the POLICE.
A crime is a crime and there already enough provfe that Kugan actually steal cars.
What the oppositions actually do. Just making an issue of it.
[...] jelas.info [...]
he desrv it…..he wanted to be a tamil tiger in malaysia? u got to be joking
To Rachel Rani,
Out of the 1530 who died in police custody how many
were men,how many were women and how many were
children?
Hi,
I have been following up this matter since the case been higlighted massively.
In my opinions, i find it there is relevent and irrelevent comments are been published at most of the forums. I don’t know whether they mean it or not. In other part i find that they politicize the matter. Yes, i agree there must be an involvement of ministry but don’t criticize the other parties. Im concern on the criticism because we lives in multiracial country and i as INDIAN don’t want this case end up as racism matter.
A.Kugan’s case is eye opener to indians, we have educated ourself to know the issues and fight for rights. All i hopes we should open the other eyes down there and make them realise the scenarios. There is always good and bad in a matter. We should determine it in correct path.
Im very much concern about our community developments. Yes, we have develops our UNITY through strugling. Its not always too late to achieve. I hope the community stay united, shine and stand taller among others.
No matter what, we stil live happily and peacefully in our nation. Thank You Malaysia.
I hope A.Kugan’s case can be resolved peacefully and reduced the n number of police brutality in our nation.
Do aplogize me, if do I have putted things wrongly.
Thank You.
Anandh Inbarraju
to solve this problem,der r only one way…you all knw what?tsunami!!everyone should die!its better we die rather than see this things all..because bad people are more than good people in this world
brothers & sisters,
have you all notice that no action from goverment for kugans death till todate.. everything happening is just gimmicks..
soon many issues will come like MB Perak, selangor issues, ADUN jumping here and there, UMNO, UMNO and UMNO.. but things will be forgotten just like that..
whats the point… who really can help us
Hi Gunasegaran a/l Muthusamy !
Rujuk balik pada statement anda memang betul biarkan polis buat kerja mereka memang tak salah tapi anda patut faham sebagai seorg yang bernama manusia jika ini berlaku pada kaum keluarga anda apa perasaan anda? Tepuk dada tanya sendiri ….Kaum keluarga mangsa tak salahkan pihak polis tapi hanya menuntut keadilan keatas simati itu sahaja.
Bagi saya jika benar dia terlibat dalam kes curi keretapun tak berat kesalahan dia itu berbanding dengan kes-kes seperti merogal anak sendiri, membunuh @ kes – kes rogol & bunuh yang lebih keji dan tidak berperikemanusian…….apalah kalau di bandingkan dengan pencuri kereta tu sedang kan manusia keji macam tu pun ….tak pulak polis suruh dia minum air mineral yang boleh menyebabkan kematian serta merta tak payahkan buang masa turun naik mahkamah lepas tu dapat tempat tinggal free…makan free and makan angin free dalam penjara menghabiskan duit rakyat je….
Bukan mereka nak jadikan issue pasal hal ni tapi jika anda yang mengalaminya bagaimana?
Boleh kan anda duduk diam dan harapkan keadilan jatuh dari langit??
Baik anda pergi berjumpa Dr minta nasihat macamana nak pulihkan perasaan anda tu sebab saya rasa anda ni tak berperasaan…….bahaya tu !!
i dnt knw frm where the police get graduate? many times i’ve seen police ambil rasuah ler, so stupid orang macam nie tak patut ada dalam PDRM. i rasa polis kat n’gri m’sia perlukan lebih education kalau tak pandai nak ada kat PDRM balik kampung tanam jagung je..
I think you are to carry away to include gov and umno.Actuallly it’s the police mistake.
Don’t try to politic some issues that not related to.
No gov. in Malaysia freely used the brutal in interogations.
Might be the police personals did it harshly but their own .
Think again….pls!!!
it is wrong but try not to blame on gov. blindly.
Ok…!!!
i think the problem is the Kugan had inured before that.It is not the police brutally done.
maaf. kematian, apa pun sebabnya, memang mengharukan, jadi takziah kepada semua yang terlibat. namun kesedihan bukan alasan untuk menjadi emosional dan kes tidak harus dijadikan isu politik.
Dalam 4 hari luka yang dalam tak akan kering dan luka dipermukaan membentuk keruping. Pembentukan parut mengambil masa lebih lama. Toreh sedikit kulit anda untuk luka atau cucuh sedikit untuk lecur. Barangkali dalam seminggu pun keruping masih belum kering, kalau luka yang dalam pasti lebih lama. justeru benarkah kesan parut kerana polis? fikir-fikirlah..lagi pula manusia sebetulnya masih boleh hidup walau 7 hari tanpa makan. sekali lagi maaf, ini kenyataan dalam biologi manusia, saya tidak sekali-kali menyokong tahanan dibiarkan lapar. masakan tidak, bayangkan jika satu hari entah fitnah siapa saya ditahan polis? pasti saya sendiri tidak mahu lapar dahaga atau didera..akhir kata takziah pada semua yang terlibat..
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sivagami // Jan 24, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Adakah Allah akan memaafkan penyembahnya yang telah membuli dan membunuh bukan penyembahnya?
mokarda // Jan 24, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Remarks:
Why bring the religion issue here…..? There is an indian muslim, chinese muslim too. Islam not belong to malay only. Maybe (I said maybe) the indian policeman are killing this youth, maybe a chinese policeman and maybe a malay policeman. If u bring the religion issue here, u r stupid….
Every god in every religion are telling their follower to be good person, not to be bad person.
This is malaysia, Do not act like this. Like childish. Be rasional and think.
The foreign police is better than MALAYSIAN POLICE….?
Who dare to say that ……..?
Check this out..
POLICE ABUSE AND KILLINGS OF STREET CHILDREN IN INDIA
Human Rights Watch Children’s Rights Project
Human Rights Watch/Asia
Human Rights Watch
New York · Washington · London · Brussels
http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/1996/India4.htm
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Police brutality in AMERICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality
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Police brutality in GERMANY
Germany: Another case of police brutality with fatal consequences
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jul2002/germ-j31.shtml
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And i didn’t make this up….Human Right Watch it.
Btw, can we live in harmony without POLICE….?
I don’t think so.
Regards,
Saravanan A/L Muniandy
Malaysian Indian.
i think that we should get the story of the police before making a judgement the culprits whether police or others must be punished my condolences to the family
Anandh Inbarraju, Vujay and Malaysian Indian made good and valid points,
people. How I wish more people would respond to their comments rather then the hate comments.
This is not a racial issue. We should not treat it as such. I call upon all Malaysians, regardless of Indian, Malay or Chinese or any other race for that matter, to not tolerate this.
Yes even if he was a criminal, he should have been treated humanely. But at the same time, I believe sometimes things get rough in there. Our police officers I would like to believe when it comes to crime (and not to political leans, that one I have my doubts) really are trying to help.
However, the system works against them as well. I have heard of complaints from officers that they lack proper equipment and time to solve cases. Magistrates don’t help, granting only limited time to investigate a crime.
Hence, they are force to use force. Moreover, they normally do so when it involves people with known criminal records. In addition, according to the officers I talk to, Kugan did have a record. I am not saying its right. In fact, it is very WRONG. The people who did this should be brought forth to justice.
Nevertheless, if we want the police to change, the system must change. The police should be given proper training and equipment. More time to investigate cases and better facilities. More importantly better pay to avoid corruption.
Do not just blame the police. They are trying hard to do their work. Instead of playing the blame and insult game, lets work out a solution. There is still hope for this country and I refuse to believe otherwise.
Furthermore, do not cry out for Kugan because he is an Indian, cry out because he is Malaysian. Cry out because he is human….
My condolence goes out to the family of the victim. May they find peace and may God bless us all.
*This is an old issue with the more recent case of Gnanapragasam, I know. But I just wanted to clear the air. Even the Gnanapragasam case is not racial. It is the same issue, requiring the same solutions. The question is, are we brave enough to admit that?*
A person has died in police custody. This is not the first time and won’t be the last. Why are the police protecting thier own kind and discriminating the indians….
[...] A. Kugan died in police custody from “drinking water.” Choong Soy Soy died in police custody after “slipping in the toilet.” Francis Udayappan “escaped prison, jumped into a river, and died” (how he was beheaded is yet unknown). [...]
bludy police…………..
pls la if u all gt here nie news bout malay’s died in lokap……
no……………
buggerds police……………………..
sigh, im still puzzled…how can Malaysia hire uneducated man / woman as policeman..in Singapore, if you want to be a policeman u shud at least excel in few subjects…our policeman …mostly dropouts or even didnt finish their spm or a hobo from kampung with nothing to do…and i know that most chinese dont want that kind of job but they could at least hire educated policeman and at least increase their salary…dont just simply hire because their height and weight and giv them low salary because of the money issue.
what the fuck?? you think singapore police is “educated” enough??..
Singapore Government is very extreme towards their oppositions, bad guy, terrorist, nuisance, etc with their Special Branch capabilities.
I know this things.. I studied how singapore government treat their opponents party.. they (SG Gov) will make the opponent leader bankruptcy.. or what ever they want to stop the opposition activity from ruined the governemnt.. they do it silently..
For crime solution, the subjet (the criminal) will disappearing from public.. they were caught buy police/speical branch/ secret agent.. torture him/her and take away his life.. no one know what happen to him.. no pictures over internet.. no video crawl over youtube.. the authority inform the family, the criminal were missing.. or untraceable.. the truth is he died or being lockup in sentosa island.. who know..
-Morty
Who is the fuckers say that “kecoh lah korang?” Mind your words ok. We are here to give opinion not criticism Indian OK!!! So better watch out your mouth. We Indian never say that we don’t trust police but unfortunately they did this and make us very disappointed at them! Of course yes this is not racial issue but is a humanity issue here. Come the fatc clearly show that Kugan bring to investigate not for kill him ok. Yes we do need people like police to protect us but you know what no one trust at police anymore because they behave like that! Now days your police who is the one smuggler and with who we suppose to report? is that to the “same police smuggler or find a honest police?
Ok fine Mr.Kecoh lah korang, you say that most of the gangster is Indian but have you read the newspaper dated 29/9/09? A young guy was bitten until his head crack by a group of “Malay” guys that turn to be hero? What should others think! Is that you want us to think they are “hero” or who try to protect nation? Some of the guy is the army, police and trainee police! even you are a officer you don’t have to right to beat a person without a permission! Come we have our right ok, we are not stupid! So next time think before your fucker mouth spilled out stupid things!
[...] Nathaniel Tan has good pictures of Kugan here….. [...]
All the brutalities in Malaysia comes to one point. UMNO or BN. Ada akai ke?
Kenapalah isu macam ni semuanya kaitkan UMNO yang bersalah.
Semua isu dijadikan isu politik. Kadang-kadang kemaruk sangat ke ahli-ahli politik ni?
Kita perlu rasional. kalau ada pihak Polis yang melampau batas, anggota-anggota ini perlu didakwa. Jangan kata PDRM secara rasminya merelakan semua ini berlaku. Kalau seorang adik beradik kita jahat takkan satu keluarga atau satu kampung dikata jahat.
Memanglah orang-orang India ini lebih beremosi dari bangsa-bangsa lain, dari sudut positif ini menandakan bangsa India ini lebih mesra dan kuat kasih-sayangnya sesama sedara-mara , tapi pihak -pihak berkenaan harus respon kepada ledakan emosi ini dengan cara yang bertanggungjawab dan rasional, jgn diambil kesempatan…mereka dalam kesedihan yang amat sangat..kita sebagai pihak ketiga ini perlu rasional untuk membantu mereka mengurus ledakan emosi ini….saya percaya perkara ini menjadi huru-hara kerana pihak-pihak yang bersimpati (org politik) lebih kalut mengaut keuntungan bagaikata perpatah Menangguk DI Air Yang Keruh.
Kematian Kugan: Anggota polis akan didakwa esok
30/09/2009 11:09pm
KUALA LUMPUR 30 Sept. — Seorang anggota polis, V.Navindran akan didakwa di Mahkamah Sesyen Petaling Jaya esok berhubung kematian seorang tahanan polis, A. Kugan, kata Peguam Negara, Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail.
Katanya, Navindran akan didakwa mengikut Seksyen 331 Kanun Keseksaan kerana dengan sengaja menyebabkan kecederaan teruk bagi mendapatkan pengakuan dari si mati,” katanya dalam satu kenyataan di sini hari ini.
Seksyen 331 itu membawa hukuman penjara untuk satu tempoh yang boleh dilanjutkan sehingga 11 tahun dan boleh didenda jika didapati bersalah. – Bernama
Conclusion……Human brutality does not come from what race you are, political party or government organization….it is an incorrect behavior when men tend to use their emotional feeling rather than their brains for judgment……enough said.
He is a criminal, we don’t know what he was doing before police detained him. It is possible for a 24 year old man to have an heart attack, heart attack is for all ages not only for 84 year old man. God has punished him and yet will still punish him even after death. Perhaps, human punishment is not enough so he has to be taken beyond.
You dont kill a person, just because they have stolen cars. How crazy, there is no humanity seen at all in Malaysia, no humans have the rights to take another humans life. Malaysia, please learn some spirituality from India. Malaysian government please understand that you are also human beings, death will also come to you by God , so remember that. I hope there is no human extinction because of all human anger.
do u know what i think our police person are not pro.the only to way to get the trued is to beat the hell of the suspect to make them confese .a true police person should learn to invesitgated the crime without using any force then we can call polis diraja malaysia best in the world
i knw kugan in person..he’s someone who cant stand pain..even an injection needle makes him scream..
Pls stop all the predictions and influencing other’s mind. lets move on and build the road! just be aware and you will be safe!
I curse the person who did this horrible injustice to this young boy and his family. May they go to hell. May they receive the same suffering the Late Kugan received. They are uneducated bastards.
God bless the family and let Kugan’s soul rest in peace
Wow, reading some of the comments here, I can’t help but shake my head at the way all of you have been brainwashed into thinking that it is perfectly reasonable and acceptable to BEAT A MAN TO DEATH.
To all the “Indians” commenting who said that we should not jump to conclusions, we should let the police provide an explanation and that there was proof that the victim was a thief/robber/criminal/degenerate/thug/gangster/’porrikki’ etc, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!?! Did you even see the pictures posted?!
Please pick up a book and READ!! Educate yourselves about BASIC human rights!! Educate yourselves about the cycle of violence and the repercussions of growing up in poverty and surrounded by violence!! No matter what the supposed crime that the victim was accused of committing, he DID NOT deserve to be BEATEN TO DEATH! Violence is NEVER the answer.
It is despicable to say that we shouldn’t mourn the loss of a criminal as he was not a dr, lawyer or professional. So the value on a human life is based on what qualifications he has?! What if it was a member of your family?! Then what? The very fact that this situation was allowed to take place WITHOUT anyone being brought to justice MEANS that it can happen to YOU!! Yes, I’m talking to you, you ignorant idiot!! The police got away with committing MURDER because to them the victim was a useless piece of trash that did not deserve to live. Sounds familiar? Yes? Because that is exactly what some of you wrote earlier!! So, who is going to stop them tomorrow when they arrest you for looking suspicious and then try to beat the ‘truth’ out of you?! Are you just going to take the beating and tell yourself, “oh, its okay, I’m just a ______, my life has not much value as a doctor/lawyer/professional etc”. Grow a fucking pair!!! It is because you of people like you that the higher ups think they can get away with everything. Educate yourselves and change your mentality! Stop giving educated Indians a bad name!! As for the rest of you non-Indians, where were you when this happened? Where was the outrage for this victim that appeared in spades when the 14 year old Malay boy got shot in his car?! Do you think if this victim’s case was properly handled the police would have dared to behave as though they could get away with it?!?!
This country is a disgrace and the people who run it are an even bigger disgrace. All educated citizens of this country should not hope and dream for change, because it is a wasted effort and just an impossible pipe dream. No matter how many times you vote for the opposition, there will be no change. You know why? Because we don’t even have a bloody opposition that can agree on any one matter!!! So fuck it. Fuck this country. Take you stuff and leave. Why I should I stay in my so called ‘tanah tumpahnya darahku’ and be treated like a 3rd class citizen, when I can just as easily be treated that way in another country, where at least I don’t have to put up with all this bureaucratic bullshit?!
What the hell is this..!! you dont kill a person, just because he steal the car.. damm crazy yaar..!! there is no humanity seen at all in malaysia.no humans here got the rights to take another humans life.. Malaysians police please understand that you are also a Human Being, Death will also will come to you one day.. I realy feel upset (with tears) for the young boy @ Kugan.. I wonder how his Family are now..?? im sure they’ll be crying everyday.. I curse the person who did this Horibble injustice to this Young boy and his family definetly will go to hell,they will definetly receive the same suffering the late Kugan received.. They are really Un-educated Fucking Bastards.I wonder he would have cried when he was beaten up in police custody.. If i were the police constabel.. I would’nt have beat like this.. by beating a human you would never acchieve anything ..try to ask nicely and politely..treat well.. im sure he will feel guilty and tell the truth,but this people already killed him.they have to answer one day to God..
May God will always Bless the family and let Kugan’s soul rest in peace.