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		<title>By: Leithaisor</title>
		<link>http://jelas.info/2008/10/08/abdullahs-secret-loophole-in-the-transition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-149972</link>
		<dc:creator>Leithaisor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pratamad, 

What Nat picked up is significant, and is, as you point out, is an anolmaly which may well point to the undercurrents. 

When I first read on Malaysiakini the same words that Nat picked up and posted about, it had struck my the Pak Lah has put a proviso on the supposedly agreed upon transition of power to Najib, as well as (reportedly) phrased it as &quot;once he has won, then we can discuss&quot;. On that, I did not disagree with Nat. 

But note that Pak Lah said all that OPENLY to reporters, and in turn, we the public, have read those words.

So what secret? If Pak Lah had some secret escape clause in place, logically he whould have kept quiet about it. Yet Nat chose to call it (breathlessly?) a &quot;secret&quot; loophole.

And the &quot;loophole&quot;? As I had already written, Pak Lah was merely stating the obvious.

Hence my gripe with Nat&#039;s choice of words - making-a-mountain-out-of-a-molehill sensationalism (akin to trying to convince folks that a space tourist is an astronaut) rather than stating it for what it was - a curious choice of words which may well point to a conditional agreement to transfer power to Najib with perhaps a touch of I-am-still-the-Boss bravado. 

No secret, no loophole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pratamad, </p>
<p>What Nat picked up is significant, and is, as you point out, is an anolmaly which may well point to the undercurrents. </p>
<p>When I first read on Malaysiakini the same words that Nat picked up and posted about, it had struck my the Pak Lah has put a proviso on the supposedly agreed upon transition of power to Najib, as well as (reportedly) phrased it as &#8220;once he has won, then we can discuss&#8221;. On that, I did not disagree with Nat. </p>
<p>But note that Pak Lah said all that OPENLY to reporters, and in turn, we the public, have read those words.</p>
<p>So what secret? If Pak Lah had some secret escape clause in place, logically he whould have kept quiet about it. Yet Nat chose to call it (breathlessly?) a &#8220;secret&#8221; loophole.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;loophole&#8221;? As I had already written, Pak Lah was merely stating the obvious.</p>
<p>Hence my gripe with Nat&#8217;s choice of words &#8211; making-a-mountain-out-of-a-molehill sensationalism (akin to trying to convince folks that a space tourist is an astronaut) rather than stating it for what it was &#8211; a curious choice of words which may well point to a conditional agreement to transfer power to Najib with perhaps a touch of I-am-still-the-Boss bravado. </p>
<p>No secret, no loophole.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAN OF COURAGE MEETS A LADY OF COURAGE

RPK had a special visitor today, Siew Hoon, his neighbour from Bt Rahman Putra, Sg Buloh. Siew Hoon suffered from an eye degenerative disease. When she was giving birth to her baby 12 years ago, she had to choose between saving her eyesight or saving her baby. She chose her baby and as a consequence, today she is blind.

Despite her handicap, she came to court to give support to RPK. It really touched us who were privileged to witness them hugging.

Siew Hoon related to us their experience when her family first shifted to BRP to be RPK&#039;s neighbours. The housing estate suffered frequent breakins. So much so that RPK organised a Rukun Tetangga to guard the area. That&#039;s RPK, said Siew Hoon. He is so caring for his neighbours, always fighting for justice. Once when she was alone in the house with her child, a thief climbed on the roof. RPK came out and risked his life to single-handedly chased the thief off. When Siew Hoon called the police, all they asked was: &quot;Did you catch the thief?&quot; The police could not be bothered to help us and it took a civilian to do it.

Another time, about 10 years back, when Anwar Ibrahim was arrested for sodomy. RPK explained to her, Anwar is not like that. He does not have such sexual preferences knowing him in college. RPK set up the Free Anwar Campaign Site to defend Anwar. He was always fighting for the underdog.

He set up Malaysia-Today to fight for us Malaysians. Now that he is in trouble, Siew Hoon re-iterated, we must come out and show him support. If I, a blind person, can do it. There is no reason normal people cannot do it.

http://tindakmalaysia.com/tm_forums2008/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAN OF COURAGE MEETS A LADY OF COURAGE</p>
<p>RPK had a special visitor today, Siew Hoon, his neighbour from Bt Rahman Putra, Sg Buloh. Siew Hoon suffered from an eye degenerative disease. When she was giving birth to her baby 12 years ago, she had to choose between saving her eyesight or saving her baby. She chose her baby and as a consequence, today she is blind.</p>
<p>Despite her handicap, she came to court to give support to RPK. It really touched us who were privileged to witness them hugging.</p>
<p>Siew Hoon related to us their experience when her family first shifted to BRP to be RPK&#8217;s neighbours. The housing estate suffered frequent breakins. So much so that RPK organised a Rukun Tetangga to guard the area. That&#8217;s RPK, said Siew Hoon. He is so caring for his neighbours, always fighting for justice. Once when she was alone in the house with her child, a thief climbed on the roof. RPK came out and risked his life to single-handedly chased the thief off. When Siew Hoon called the police, all they asked was: &#8220;Did you catch the thief?&#8221; The police could not be bothered to help us and it took a civilian to do it.</p>
<p>Another time, about 10 years back, when Anwar Ibrahim was arrested for sodomy. RPK explained to her, Anwar is not like that. He does not have such sexual preferences knowing him in college. RPK set up the Free Anwar Campaign Site to defend Anwar. He was always fighting for the underdog.</p>
<p>He set up Malaysia-Today to fight for us Malaysians. Now that he is in trouble, Siew Hoon re-iterated, we must come out and show him support. If I, a blind person, can do it. There is no reason normal people cannot do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rakyat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Rakyat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Sun Tzu&#039;s Art of War:
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&quot;Such a general who protects his soldiers like infants will have them following him into the deepest valleys. A general who treats his soldiers like his own beloved sons will have their willingness to die for him.&quot;

&quot;Secure the loyalty of your troops first before disciplining them or they will not be submissive.&quot;
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If you treat the Malaysian people like shit...?? JR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Sun Tzu&#8217;s Art of War:<br />
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&#8220;Such a general who protects his soldiers like infants will have them following him into the deepest valleys. A general who treats his soldiers like his own beloved sons will have their willingness to die for him.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Secure the loyalty of your troops first before disciplining them or they will not be submissive.&#8221;<br />
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<p>If you treat the Malaysian people like shit&#8230;?? JR</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rakyat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Rakyat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reject Leaders Who Do Not Respect Country&#039;s Rakyat
2008-10-09 15:04

KUALA TERENGGANU: The Malaysian Rakyat Thursday (9 Oct) called on Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak to reject any form of unruly behaviour towards the country&#039;s Rakyat.

The Rakyat said they did not want such behaviour (such as leaders sulking and pouting like Beverly Hills 90210 actors) to become a norm because it could undermine unity and security of the country, including teddy bear sales.

Citing as example the unruly incident at the Hari Raya open house of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and other Muslim cabinet ministers in Kuala Lumpur last Wednesday (1 Oct), where leaders conceitedly tried to brush off greeting members of the Rakyat simply because their t-shirts carried messages of support for detainees being held unjustly under the draconian ISA law. The Rakyat said such action could cause losses to the country.

&quot;If there are leaders with other motives, who don&#039;t understand the Malaysian culture of courtesy, are rude and don&#039;t respect the Rakyat, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak must reject them. This kind of action cannot become a norm,&quot; the Rakyat said.

The Rakyat said the government held the open house (paid for by the Rakyat) to enable the leaders to meet and greet the Malaysian Rakyat who had graciously voted the leaders into parliament, without having to observe protocol.

&quot;Never in other countries can the leaders meet their Rakyat so easily. (But) this value of peace will be destroyed if certain leaders have other motives. This value of peace cannot be ignored,&quot; said the Rakyat.

The Rakyat said that if such actions persisted, it might not be possible to practise the open house concept in future and that would be a loss, because leaders such as Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak would no longer get cards and teddy bears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reject Leaders Who Do Not Respect Country&#8217;s Rakyat<br />
2008-10-09 15:04</p>
<p>KUALA TERENGGANU: The Malaysian Rakyat Thursday (9 Oct) called on Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak to reject any form of unruly behaviour towards the country&#8217;s Rakyat.</p>
<p>The Rakyat said they did not want such behaviour (such as leaders sulking and pouting like Beverly Hills 90210 actors) to become a norm because it could undermine unity and security of the country, including teddy bear sales.</p>
<p>Citing as example the unruly incident at the Hari Raya open house of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and other Muslim cabinet ministers in Kuala Lumpur last Wednesday (1 Oct), where leaders conceitedly tried to brush off greeting members of the Rakyat simply because their t-shirts carried messages of support for detainees being held unjustly under the draconian ISA law. The Rakyat said such action could cause losses to the country.</p>
<p>&#8220;If there are leaders with other motives, who don&#8217;t understand the Malaysian culture of courtesy, are rude and don&#8217;t respect the Rakyat, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak must reject them. This kind of action cannot become a norm,&#8221; the Rakyat said.</p>
<p>The Rakyat said the government held the open house (paid for by the Rakyat) to enable the leaders to meet and greet the Malaysian Rakyat who had graciously voted the leaders into parliament, without having to observe protocol.</p>
<p>&#8220;Never in other countries can the leaders meet their Rakyat so easily. (But) this value of peace will be destroyed if certain leaders have other motives. This value of peace cannot be ignored,&#8221; said the Rakyat.</p>
<p>The Rakyat said that if such actions persisted, it might not be possible to practise the open house concept in future and that would be a loss, because leaders such as Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak would no longer get cards and teddy bears.</p>
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		<title>By: cancan</title>
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		<dc:creator>cancan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today in history

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today in history</p>
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		<title>By: Pratamad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pratamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Leithaisor: 

there is significance in what Nat picked up. Remember Dollah is a politician, and especially in his remaining days as PM, what would you *normally* expect him the politician to say about Najib? &quot;Saya akan sokong (sepenuhnya) Najib sebagai Perdana Menteri&quot;! But no, Dollah did not say that, but rather gave a qualified statement. From the democratic perspective, that was the right thing to say, i.e. it is a matter of UMNO party democracy (what an oxymoron). But not the right thing to say in BN politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Leithaisor: </p>
<p>there is significance in what Nat picked up. Remember Dollah is a politician, and especially in his remaining days as PM, what would you *normally* expect him the politician to say about Najib? &#8220;Saya akan sokong (sepenuhnya) Najib sebagai Perdana Menteri&#8221;! But no, Dollah did not say that, but rather gave a qualified statement. From the democratic perspective, that was the right thing to say, i.e. it is a matter of UMNO party democracy (what an oxymoron). But not the right thing to say in BN politics.</p>
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		<title>By: .....</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U wanna badawi be &quot;C4&quot;ed meh?

If badawi don&#039;t wanna step down, or play play only, or whatever, nanti that &quot;mr. C4&quot; will &quot;C4&quot;ed badawi and we would loose yet another nice guy.

U wanna dat meh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U wanna badawi be &#8220;C4&#8243;ed meh?</p>
<p>If badawi don&#8217;t wanna step down, or play play only, or whatever, nanti that &#8220;mr. C4&#8243; will &#8220;C4&#8243;ed badawi and we would loose yet another nice guy.</p>
<p>U wanna dat meh?</p>
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		<title>By: BadEgg</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadEgg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha I knew it&#039;s not going to be that simple. Look at Abdullah&#039;s smile, he knew what&#039;s going to happen. There is no democracy in Malaysia from what I&#039;m seeing. I bet there&#039;s going to be a flip-flops and a lot of BS excuses no.... idiotic excuses which miraculously will get passed without so much of a sensible reason to make him stay at power. Or I speculate that he will try to laundry all his money overseas before his deadline, then move and lived comfortably for the rest of his generation to come in Monkey Island.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha I knew it&#8217;s not going to be that simple. Look at Abdullah&#8217;s smile, he knew what&#8217;s going to happen. There is no democracy in Malaysia from what I&#8217;m seeing. I bet there&#8217;s going to be a flip-flops and a lot of BS excuses no&#8230;. idiotic excuses which miraculously will get passed without so much of a sensible reason to make him stay at power. Or I speculate that he will try to laundry all his money overseas before his deadline, then move and lived comfortably for the rest of his generation to come in Monkey Island.</p>
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		<title>By: delCapo</title>
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		<dc:creator>delCapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know many will hate to agree... but i reckon TDM was right to call for his step-down after the good 2004 run... his weaknesses (&amp; sheer loack of strengths &amp; intellect) will not be contained for long.

at least he has one true talent - prolonging a drama =]

common, PR... make this UMNO March elections a no-event, an opposition party elections!!! 

!!!PEOPLE POWER!!!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know many will hate to agree&#8230; but i reckon TDM was right to call for his step-down after the good 2004 run&#8230; his weaknesses (&amp; sheer loack of strengths &amp; intellect) will not be contained for long.</p>
<p>at least he has one true talent &#8211; prolonging a drama =]</p>
<p>common, PR&#8230; make this UMNO March elections a no-event, an opposition party elections!!! </p>
<p>!!!PEOPLE POWER!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fairdinkum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fairdinkum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fairdinkum ,
                      AAB should not be a quitter instead he should pull the country out of the ruts. He should take the advices from the majority of the Malaysians and not just umno. Afterall the citizens gave him the mandate not umno, so retract your earlier statement and get back to work. I love you Pak Lah don&#039;t quit and prove it to yourself that you are : TIADA MELAYU HILANG DI DUNIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairdinkum ,<br />
                      AAB should not be a quitter instead he should pull the country out of the ruts. He should take the advices from the majority of the Malaysians and not just umno. Afterall the citizens gave him the mandate not umno, so retract your earlier statement and get back to work. I love you Pak Lah don&#8217;t quit and prove it to yourself that you are : TIADA MELAYU HILANG DI DUNIA.</p>
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