This post is being updated and added to towards the bottom.
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I’m so very angry.
Police said they have detained all five leaders of the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) under Section 8 (1) of the Internal Security Act.
The five are P. Uthayakumar, M. Manoharan, R. Kenghadharan, V. Ganabatirau and Vasantha Kumar. They were picked up at various locations in Selangor, Kuala Lumpur and Seremban.
They will be detained for two years.
I don’t care what you think they’re guilty of.
Every Malaysian, and every human being deserves their day in court. If you cannot charge them and produce evidence to prosecute them, just keep your hands off.
If they are guilty, prove it in a clean court of law, and give them whatever punishment is due. But this is kidnapping, and this is tyranny.
Don’t fall for this safeguarding national security bullshit. Not a shred of proof has been produced to demonstrate violent intent. Until there is such proof, these actions are unwarranted.
ISA and Hindraf are two separate things. We can debate Hindraf, as there is indeed a lot to debate, but the ISA must be opposed on principle, at all times – without regard to politics.
Abdullah’s gloves are off – he has decided to screw his Mr. Nice Guy image, and show he is no different from the heavy handed Mahathir.
Darkness envelops us all. What are you going to do about it?
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After venting my anger politically, I went downstairs for a while.
The time is day, but everything seems so dark.
I just stood there, hands in my pocket. And this is what my hands found:
My camera doesn’t really work right now, but it’s a picture of a cinema ticket from last weekend, to The Golden Compass.
It reminds me of freedom and happiness. I went with Li Tsin, it was really nice.
How can I enjoy more days like that in a world with the ISA?
How can I stop thinking about what happened to Malek Husin under the ISA:
In his statutory declaration, Abdul Malek said he was slapped, kicked and punched, and was hit so hard on the head until he passed out.
He was also stripped naked, forced fed dirty and stinking water and subjected to sexual abuse.
(It was Abdullah’s hand that signed the order today, so if anything like the above happens to the 5, it will be truly be done by Abdullah’s own hand)
How can I enjoy another movie?
How can I enjoy anything?
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When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
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UMNO musuh kami – Hindraf
Oleh: SAHBULAH DARWI
BUTTERWORTH 9 Dis. – Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) hari ini mengisytiharkan secara terbuka bahawa musuhnya adalah UMNO, bukan orang Melayu.
Seorang peguam yang mendakwa mewakili Hindraf, P. Uthayakumar berkata, ini kerana parti itu didakwa mengetepikan masyarakat India dalam arus pembangunan negara.
‘‘Kami telah hidup dengan baik dan bekerjasama erat dengan orang Melayu bukan setakat 50 tahun lalu tetapi sejak 200 tahun dahulu.
‘‘Kami tidak bermusuh dengan orang Melayu kerana mereka banyak membantu. Hindraf hanya memusuhi UMNO,” katanya ketika berucap semasa menghadiri upacara keagamaan di Kuil Sri Mahamariamman di Jalan Jeti Lama di sini hari ini.
Kira-kira 2,000 orang India berhimpun secara aman di kuil itu bagi mengadakan upacara keagamaan untuk mendoakan pembebasan 31 penyokong Hindraf yang ditahan ekoran terlibat dalam perhimpunan haram di ibu negara 25 November lalu.
Perhimpunan yang bermula kira-kira pukul 11 pagi hingga 1 petang itu turut dihadiri oleh Ahli Dewan Undangan Negeri kawasan Sungai Puyu, Phee Boon Poh dari DAP.
Uthayakumar berkata, masyarakat India tidak menghadapi masalah untuk terus hidup harmoni bersama masyarakat Melayu dan tidak sekali-kali berasa marah atau benci kepada orang Melayu.
Menurutnya, Malaysia tetap menjadi negara tumpah darah yang dipertahankan oleh masyarakat India negara ini, namun apa yang menjadi masalah ialah kerajaan pimpinan UMNO mengabaikan masyarakat India.
Beliau yang ditemui selepas itu juga berkata, kenyataan Ketua Polis Negara, Tan Sri Musa Hassan yang mendedahkan tindakan Hindraf meminta sokongan dan bantuan pengganas antarabangsa iaitu Pemberontak Harimau Pembebasan Tamil Eelam (LTTE) dari Sri Lanka adalah satu pembohongan.
Menurut Uthayakumar, pembohongan itu bertujuan untuk mengalih isu yang ditimbulkan oleh Hindraf dengan mengaitkan mereka dengan kumpulan pengganas.
Menurutnya, langkah itu bertujuan memastikan badan bukan kerajaan antarabangsa dan kerajaan negara asing menjauhi dan tidak menyokong Hindraf.
Justeru, kata beliau, pihaknya membuat laporan polis berhubung tuduhan Musa terhadap Hindraf itu kira-kira pukul 3 petang semalam di Kuala Lumpur.
‘‘Kalau Ketua Polis Negara gagal buktikan kebenaran tuduhan itu dalam tempoh 24 jam, ternyata ia palsu,” katanya.
Mengenai penahanan 31 penyokong Hindraf, beliau berkata, Hakim Mahkamah Tinggi Shah Alam yang mengadili kes mereka perlu ditukar kepada hakim baru.
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4.55pm
I’m feeling a bit more… recovered now.
It occurs to me that nothing would make Dollah and gang happier than to see our backs and spirits broken.
Fuck that man, lawan tetap lawan.
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7.40pm
I understand that there’s a video Uthayakumar recorded to be showed in the event of his arrest under the ISA. Looking forward to seeing it.
I might write more on this later, but I hope that as the first layer of Hindraf leaders are now taken in, the second layer will rise to the challenge to shape their efforts from here on in a true Gandhian mold.
Much can be accomplished for Malaysia, if we can only do things right.
Badawi, you have reached a point of no return. You have removed the littlest faith that I had in you. This will be your legacy.
Note to myself: do all in your power to bring this guy down.
And you still want an appointment with Mr. Nice Guy?
Nat, do not be discouraged. As I said in my previous comment, I believe light will triumph over darkness.
I remember a few weeks back the Malay Mail front paged a monkey trap that caused the death of a few monkeys in Bukit Kiara/Hartamas area. The paper called such trap inhumane.
But when it comes to police shooting water cannons and tear gas into Batu Caves, beating up Bersih & Hindraf protesters, we dont even see a single newpaper or the Malay Mail printing/highligting such atrocities. How come??? Are the plight of those monkeys trapped in that monkey trap in Bukit Kiara more important than Malaysians??? Shooting water cannons and tear gas into peaceful protesters not inhumane??
Isnt detention without trial inhumane?? It is 2007 today, we just sent someone to space! We are not in the middle ages or something.
Honestly, do we have law and order in Malaysia?
Screw the goverment of the day… BN sucks and will always be. ALL MALAYSIANS UNITE…… For our our own sake and our children’s sake lets vote them out…PEOPLE POWER!
yeah true..no more law and order in Malaysia..authorities taking bribes, people accuse garmen cannot but the other way round, anytime anywhere..
Good to know Hindraf’s anger is actually to UMNO and not to other Malays and heartening to note the reply is after two weeks? Samy Velloo and MIC must be happy as they are not the intended target (Maika comes to mind). And I also hope the anger is also not to the Muslims as well which was stated in their memorandum “Muslim extremist”, etc, etc less one would state the “christian extremist” bombed Iraq and “Hindu extremist” bombed Kashmir and the list goes on and on and on. And yes, vote BN out.
Good lord! My prayers go with P. Uthayakumar, M. Manoharan, R. Kenghadharan, V. Ganabatirau and Vasantha Kumar. While I do not agree with their stance – though I do think they have pertinent points – this is not the way to go about things.
Like you said, Nat. To them, they haven’t realized that this is not some game they’re playing. They’re ruining lives of people around them, and blood is on the hands of all those involved with this.
Democracy? We do not live in a democracy. Every word we say, every move we make, every thought that crosses our mind is subject to the depraved whims of the few.
And for what? So that the few rich can get richer? So that the few privilege can be further entitled? So that they can continue with their arrogance, all because they cannot admit to their ineptitude?
i can’t believe my eyes when i read it??is it true i cant imagine what this F%&# gt is becoming…
i seriously am considering migrating now before something worse happens..like the ethnic cleansing of jews in Germany..is our head turning into the next hitler??
please ppl of our country …bring them down now!!!!
We are to be blamed for all of this! Did you all not see this coming all these years! Mahathir started all of these, all of us gave it to him , to abuse us and use jungle laws for the sake of economic prosperity. It was all about money! Human dignity did not matter. Sorry to put it bluntly, I am an Indian, but I know lots of Indians voted to BN all their lives. We brought it upon us, despite being 3rd class citizens we still gave them the mandate. Well done! More to come on us.
YES NAT! LAWAN TETAP LAWAN!!
Stay safe for we have lost enough good man today…
=~(
NO human should be charged under ISA let it me Malay, Indian, Chinesse, Black, white, Blue , Green. Real man – take it on face to face – but BN politicians run to hide behind ISA, Police act! Shame on u. Cheers to all leaders Bersih, Hindaf – All of you are real men – face to face – stand and fight for the truth! May God almighty bless you all.
Guys remember nobody is going to help us unless we help ourselves. Agong is not gonna help us, India is not gonna help us US/UK not gonna help us. We have the power to change all this – we must VOTE! We must VOTE for the change. We have the right! We got to undo what we did by voting for the opposition.Let it be PAS, PSM, DAP, Keadilan. I simply dont understand why the policemen do not love this country, why are thayhappily together with rotten politician taking it down with them. Irrespective of Race, religion, colour our blood is all red, all of us feel pain, why divide using race and religion and colour. Dont people realise the same God created us different colour. When someone is discriminating another person based on race, colour and etc they are discriminating the almighty who created them
They have a good strategy and outsmarted this cretin. They knew a few days ago and said so, some of them would be picked up, so some were left behind for the cretin to do just that. Now the fires keep burning.
The others are free to carry on the fight. Bedol betul bodo.
nat – i am surprised that you are taking on a sissy. bodowi is a sissy hiding under the ISA skirt. If he had two nuts – he would have charged them – he used his lapdog(another sissy) – patel – to charge them thrice – but failed – then they took Uthayakumar on a sponsored tour of the malaysian lock-ups – when they realised that they werent man enough to chage him – they have resorted to ‘sissy’ weapon ISA.
Honestly and I mean honestly – if i see bodowi – i;ll spit in his face.
I am not being discrimantive or disrespectful – but ‘ sissies – piss me off . and a stupid sissy really takes the shot out of me.
my 2008 resolution – talk to at least 10 people a day – to make sure that all 10 people then talk to another 10 people a day can convicne them to vote opposition – MLM – approach to campaigning.
honestly we are at the very bottom of the rung – point of no return.
Nat, much was said.A lot more to come. But,obviously, we are sad. Very sad. Very very sad. It’s anger from the head do foot. We are angry. The Indians are angry. The emotions are running high. Cant think much now. Cant write much. Cant move even.
Stunned. Shocked. These guys are the new platform for us. Indians.And see what the government has done to them. We are sad. We are angry. The truth prevails in the end,but,this is too much to pay for the truth. Tears are running down. Guys out there,don’t be emotional. Calm down. Uthaya show Gandhi for us to follow. We will do it in the way. It’s dark day for us.
A small tamil poem:
enggal urimaigal kai vaitthaai..
enggal udalgal meethu kai vaitthaai..
enggal uyirin meethu kai vaitthaai..
ippothu unarvugal meethum kia vaikkirai..
oru kaalam varum:enggal kadamai varum..
intha koottatthin aaddatthai alippom…! ;-(
I don’t know what to say…
What a wonderfull world…. Thise is Malaysia… So welcome to Malaysia.
I cried when I watched Uthaya’s parting message on Malaysiakini tv.
Uthaya. Even I don’t know you personally, I will make sure that your cruel detention and those others who were arrested today will not be in vain.
i was too numb earlier and had very little to say…
please join me to pray for the brave souls of our rakyat ..those who fought for us in the past and those who are fighting for us now!
My prayer of hope
A promise for a brighter tomorrow
a candle for our brave rakyats and leaders who stood
against tyranny,corruption,greed and injustice!
A future with us united as one rakyat regardless of race and religion and ethnicity is abolished as we are one hope and one future with a common goal and not divided or separated by political ideology created by greedy and arrogant politicians.
Respect and love in our hearts for our fellow malaysians and race is never a description on Mycard and neither is special privileges a practice for a privileged few but a nation that should give a privilege equal to all
Sharing our wealth in education and resources equally and distributing our rakyats minds without fear, favour or discriminations.
promoting equality before the law and justice as enshrined in our written constitution, accountability from our leaders and unity amongst the politicians with a common goal for a better future for the rakyat malaysia.
Lastly, i pray and hope that we all don’t fall victims to a group of evil man who think they can blindfold us, take away our voices and lead us astray.
Remember my fellow rakyats..we outnumber them!! lets join hands and bring them down.
Please remember that the ISA is part of the laws of Malaysia. Whoever is in power can use it (or abuse it).
It is my hope that at some point in time, this law will be changed. In a democratic society, Parliament can get it changed.
Saying the obvious, please ensure that when (not if) the current BN coalition govt is voted out, the new political regime WILL change this abhorrent Act. And I hope it will be in my lifetime.
I hope more Malaysians will understand the need for change. Spread the word.
SHOW UR FIGHT HERE
the videos at the facebook group, Deny Barisan National A 2/3 Majority in the Upcoming Election! Started about a month ago, it is now the fastest growing one at FB. Over three thousand members and growing fast.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=6411999653&oid=6912501533
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=6410914653&oid=6912501533
R.I.P Malaysian Democracy
My Prayers are always with you my fallen brothers
I heard from a friend that someone is staging a protest against PM this [deleted] to overturn him.
She got it from her mother who heard it from someone in the police force.
nat: thanks for the concern danyel, but this would be a poor time to start spreading rumours. i’m sure there are many going around.
I’m actually surprised Utusan was honest enough to carry Hindraf’s statement about opposition to UMNO not being congruent with opposition to the Malays.
Nat,
You know I’m there with you. So are the rest of us from bolehland.com
Fuck BN, LAWAN! I echo ur gf here btw :P FIGHT. Today we mourn, we drink, we make love ;), tomorrow WE FIGHT.
BN, you won’t know what hit you. Those videos on Malaysiakini man. I don’t even like Uthaya’s memo, and his stand. But, damn, that had me pissed. They’re letting him be catapulted into a demi-god now. And we sure love our Gods this side of the world. However, if I find Sg. Siput MP wins this year, you wait la.
Dear All
The time has come!
Leaders are getting locked up,
but they forgot….US ( you & me ).
Please forget our racial, religious, etc differences.
We have to unite, ALL OF US who care for change.
Speak to you neighbours, friends, whoever they are,
UNITE, UNITE, UNITE…..
Don’t let our differences be exploited anymore,
UNITE, UNITE, UNITE…..
I beg you all,
UNITE, UNITE, UNITE…..
I don’t want MY MALAYSIA to be raped by these people,
UNITE, UNITE, UNITE…..
Uthayakumar’s video prior arrest…
http://raajarox.com/
whatever you guys are planning, please count me in. this has to be a numbers game. we must spread the word and garner more voices. remember 1987 & 1997.
One thing we can do now is to organize another rally to oppose ISA. Everyone should join regardless of their background to show a united front against ISA. The take home message of the rally should be no one deserves punishment without going through a just trial.
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To all concerned Malaysians, this is certain a very sad moment in our country. But don’t be despair, for despair is only entitled to those who do evil. Stand up with your own conscience and faith, knowing that you are not alone, knowing that the good will always win, knowing that only the bad will always have to look behind themselves for the time of retribution.
This is probably the first time that a round of ISA detentions is carried out in the cyberspace age, where we can at least communicate and express our feeling and sympathy for the unfortunate. Take this as a very good opportunity to be united and struggle for our rights and freedom in our beloved country called Malaysia.
(Imagine those days when ISA detentions were carried out and we were only left with the controlled mainstream media, where no chance of communicating and organising in this manner, but the detainees probably underwent worse torture in their detention. So in relative term, this is a greater time and platform to struggle. Be positive.)
First HINDRAF had political agenda
Then HINDRAF were gangsters, then TERRORISTS
Now they are so dangerous that they have to be ‘removed’ to protect the ‘PEOPLE’ of Malaysia.
Who are the PEOPLE of Malaysia?
I AM THE PEOPLE OF Malaysia. I am the RAKYAT
I don’t need protection from HINDRAF
I SERIOUSLY need protection for the ‘DICTATORSHIP’ of UMNO
Personal Note
I pity the IDIOTS who believe the ‘one-side’ story of BN and local ‘ZOMBIE’ medias. Somebody PLEASE tell them whats really going on.
My dream is, one day, BN will loose. They will be making a public demonstration opposing the new government. At that time, no police permit should be given to BN and if they still show up peacefully, F*** them with water cannons and tear gas.
But then again ….. this is my PERSONAL dream. Whats yours?
nat: i appreciate your sentiments, boss, but I’m happy to give BN as many permits as they want after we come into power. but i do not tolerate violence now, and i wouldn’t tolerate violence then.
friends,
it’s no use groaning and moaning. What has happened, has happened. .Now we must look to the future and plan.
INow every person I meet , I ask if they are registered voters. If not I urge them to register and to take their family members along as well. Then I follow up on it the next day and the next until they do so . I also offer them transport or any other help to get registered. And at every opportunity I talk to them about the right thing to do for the sake of their family and their future.
If every one of us does this constantly and consistently and tirelessly, we are going to get what we want.
So all you good people out there, go out there and fight the good fight for those we love. GOD bless you.
Its strange that Zakaria’s palace was not demolished although there was no building permit.
Its strange that Umno youth is allowed to protest in the streets whenever it suited them along with their pre-approved police permits.
Its also strange that Hishamuddin’s act of waving the keris is not looked at as a racially insensitive act!.
Its more of “Do what I say but Don’t do as I do!” with this government!. Hope the Malaysian rakyat wakes up….soon!.
pak lah was known as MR CLEAN.
musa hassan was known as MR CLEAN too as he was in charge of commissioning an investigation into the alleged sodomy affair of anwar ibrahim aeons ago.
pak lah is known to be religious a man. he was also known to bring this system of islam called ISLAM HADHARI.
tell me folks, what is really going on?
Ministers Playing Ministers Out.
Supercops Playing Supercops Out.
In the Quran, it was clearly stated that Islams around the Globe of today will be placed to a test and this TEST shall i say is manifesting.
Now, we see 5 southern indian malaysians running HINDRAF have been slapped with ISA.
ISA…sigh…………
when we look back into history, ISA was used against terrorist………now against normal citizens.
tell me, what would happen if he is successfully re-elected for the next term again?
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