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		<title>By: will</title>
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		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good blog my friend. 

i dont like when some older generation say they scared riots or May 13 if chinese dont vote Barisan. If we dont change and work towards bangsa malaysia, we will live at the sympathy of ketuanan Melayu UMNO in 15 years time. Enough of compromising, NEP for 38 years, not enough arr....Dont remember , there were 3 bangsa whom fly to England to negotiate Malaysia&#039;s independence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good blog my friend. </p>
<p>i dont like when some older generation say they scared riots or May 13 if chinese dont vote Barisan. If we dont change and work towards bangsa malaysia, we will live at the sympathy of ketuanan Melayu UMNO in 15 years time. Enough of compromising, NEP for 38 years, not enough arr&#8230;.Dont remember , there were 3 bangsa whom fly to England to negotiate Malaysia&#8217;s independence.</p>
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		<title>By: Behaving like 2nd Class Citizens : Bolehland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Behaving like 2nd Class Citizens : Bolehland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What this does however is create a self-inflicted 2nd class citizen mentality, perpetuated most succintly by parties like the MCA. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What this does however is create a self-inflicted 2nd class citizen mentality, perpetuated most succintly by parties like the MCA. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is a vote for MCA/MIC/Gerakan a vote for Umno? &#171; Malaysian Community</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is a vote for MCA/MIC/Gerakan a vote for Umno? &#171; Malaysian Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] took some time to extensively spell out how and why MCA is completely selling out not only Chinese interests, but Malaysian ones.   At the heart of any BN component party is the fear that Umno cannot be defeated. This is loser [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] took some time to extensively spell out how and why MCA is completely selling out not only Chinese interests, but Malaysian ones.   At the heart of any BN component party is the fear that Umno cannot be defeated. This is loser [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jelas.info &#187; Is a vote for MCA/MIC/Gerakan a vote for Umno?</title>
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		<dc:creator>jelas.info &#187; Is a vote for MCA/MIC/Gerakan a vote for Umno?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I took some time to extensively spell out how and why MCA is completely selling out not only Chinese interests, but Malaysian ones. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bongkersz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bongkersz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was chatting with my colleagues and my boss over the lunch and we touch on MCA. I casually mentioned MCA just talk kok most of the time, lip service and will cower in fear when UMNO tell them to shut up. What good is MCA? My boss, and my senior said &quot;At least, Ong Ka Ting do a bit more work then Ling Liong Sik. We can see some changes that he tries to make, create more voice for the Chinese&quot;  I wanted to puke hearing that. But, generally most of Chinese out there think Ong Ka Ting is doing work?? And most of the Chinese out there cannot see beyond communal politics!!!! They do no trust someone from other race to take care of their rights, to defend them, to represent them etc. Why?? Something need to be done, or things will not change for better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was chatting with my colleagues and my boss over the lunch and we touch on MCA. I casually mentioned MCA just talk kok most of the time, lip service and will cower in fear when UMNO tell them to shut up. What good is MCA? My boss, and my senior said &#8220;At least, Ong Ka Ting do a bit more work then Ling Liong Sik. We can see some changes that he tries to make, create more voice for the Chinese&#8221;  I wanted to puke hearing that. But, generally most of Chinese out there think Ong Ka Ting is doing work?? And most of the Chinese out there cannot see beyond communal politics!!!! They do no trust someone from other race to take care of their rights, to defend them, to represent them etc. Why?? Something need to be done, or things will not change for better.</p>
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		<title>By: jelas.info &#187; Prostituted Star Covers-Up Vicious Police Violence</title>
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		<dc:creator>jelas.info &#187; Prostituted Star Covers-Up Vicious Police Violence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] satisfied with having robbed the Chinese of their dignity, MCA continues to try and scare Malaysians with maliciously untrue associations between the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] satisfied with having robbed the Chinese of their dignity, MCA continues to try and scare Malaysians with maliciously untrue associations between the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pimp&#38;prostitutealliance</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pimp : 1. a person, esp. a man, who solicits customers for a prostitute or a brothel, usually in return for a share of the earnings; pander; procurer.  
2. a despicable person.     -  http://dictionary.reference.com/

These are some of the definition of a pimp also known locally as “Or Kwee Tau”, or  “OKT”; and the definition of a Prostitute is a man or woman, that trades their flesh for monetary gains.

OKT can be describe as a professional salesperson that can sells old prostitute, big fat prostitute, ugly prostitute, leaking prostitute, keris weaving prostitute or just plain stupid prostitute.

There is another type of salesperson, a professional salesperson, that plies their trade -  “Scratch &amp; Win” on unsuspecting customers, be them Malays, Chinese or Indians, aggressive selling through coax, hoax or simple threats.

These Scratch and win salesperson can only best be describes as nuisance as their trades are being describe daily in the papers, with warning to potential unsuspecting customers, and of late, consumers are getting smarter and are rejecting these aggressive selling tactics, dismissing these salesperson.

Of  these two professional salesperson that  are describe briefly, OKT being the most immoral as they are exploiting the customers and the prostitutes trust in him; whereas the other, their trades and tricks are well known to everyone, and are not taken seriously.

Enough of that and that pimp, prostitute, definition, trades and such, now on to NatTan&#039;s piece about 2nd Class Citizenship...

Is the Chinese, a second class citizen in Malaysia? I say no, we are not a second class citizen, there might be some dual citizenship in Mr. Ong’s party, but we are no second class, we are Malaysians.

These are just some random thoughts and should any resemblance, similarity between any living or non living person or a very decease person; it’s just purely coincidental and should only be treated as such.

Incidently, if I appear to talk out of the point, it is because I am out of point, or simply still quite don&#039;t get the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pimp : 1. a person, esp. a man, who solicits customers for a prostitute or a brothel, usually in return for a share of the earnings; pander; procurer.<br />
2. a despicable person.     &#8211;  <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/</a></p>
<p>These are some of the definition of a pimp also known locally as “Or Kwee Tau”, or  “OKT”; and the definition of a Prostitute is a man or woman, that trades their flesh for monetary gains.</p>
<p>OKT can be describe as a professional salesperson that can sells old prostitute, big fat prostitute, ugly prostitute, leaking prostitute, keris weaving prostitute or just plain stupid prostitute.</p>
<p>There is another type of salesperson, a professional salesperson, that plies their trade &#8211;  “Scratch &amp; Win” on unsuspecting customers, be them Malays, Chinese or Indians, aggressive selling through coax, hoax or simple threats.</p>
<p>These Scratch and win salesperson can only best be describes as nuisance as their trades are being describe daily in the papers, with warning to potential unsuspecting customers, and of late, consumers are getting smarter and are rejecting these aggressive selling tactics, dismissing these salesperson.</p>
<p>Of  these two professional salesperson that  are describe briefly, OKT being the most immoral as they are exploiting the customers and the prostitutes trust in him; whereas the other, their trades and tricks are well known to everyone, and are not taken seriously.</p>
<p>Enough of that and that pimp, prostitute, definition, trades and such, now on to NatTan&#8217;s piece about 2nd Class Citizenship&#8230;</p>
<p>Is the Chinese, a second class citizen in Malaysia? I say no, we are not a second class citizen, there might be some dual citizenship in Mr. Ong’s party, but we are no second class, we are Malaysians.</p>
<p>These are just some random thoughts and should any resemblance, similarity between any living or non living person or a very decease person; it’s just purely coincidental and should only be treated as such.</p>
<p>Incidently, if I appear to talk out of the point, it is because I am out of point, or simply still quite don&#8217;t get the point.</p>
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		<title>By: smaller ct</title>
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		<dc:creator>smaller ct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good post nat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good post nat</p>
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		<title>By: gua bay song</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Fong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Fong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you got it right there Nat : &quot;What we want is dignity. The ability to stand proudly shoulder to shoulder with all other Malaysians, and be treated just like everyone else.&quot;

After 50 years non bumis seemed more and more like 2nd class citizens in our own country.

If MCA has any dignity at all - they would have mobilized their supporters to set things right by first telling Umnoputras to stop  using other races, esp the Chinese as punching bags.

MCA got meeker and weaker ever since Ling LS took over. and When KT Ong took over the newspaper played up his stature by saying he is a non confrontational person and a great strategist who prefer to work behind the scene and this will work well as the 2nd largest component party in BN.

Now I comprehend.  As the racist comments increased in volumes and frequency the less this Ong guy has anything to say. 

Work behind the scene .. definitely but is very obvious not for the good of what MCA is supposedly standing for. I think some of the more true blue MCA presidents must be having nightmares seeing how the original spirit of MCA is being slowly but surely eroded and destroy by a couple of gutless imbecile masquerading as the people representative.

But anyway, communal politics has no place in today world neither is religion based politics. As such, as a Malaysian(first) and a chinese I dont see nor believe that MCA is relevant today. 

On the other hand, going by what Ong is harping on - they are actually a hazard to their believer. He is not standing for dignity for the people whom he is supposedly representing but on how to kow tow and be subservient so that the 2 or 3% of chinese up there can continue getting the crumbs dropping off the bandwagon. The rest of the chinese can very well fend for themselves.

I do hope PKR or DAP could muster enough strength to help change the current political landscape. 

All I ever wanted is good governance, the rule of law, freedom of speech and information, freedom to be a Malaysian and not a Chinese Malaysian or a bumi. 

All i wanted is fairness, a good economy, a good leader who believes in integrity and transparency and not skin color or who you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you got it right there Nat : &#8220;What we want is dignity. The ability to stand proudly shoulder to shoulder with all other Malaysians, and be treated just like everyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>After 50 years non bumis seemed more and more like 2nd class citizens in our own country.</p>
<p>If MCA has any dignity at all &#8211; they would have mobilized their supporters to set things right by first telling Umnoputras to stop  using other races, esp the Chinese as punching bags.</p>
<p>MCA got meeker and weaker ever since Ling LS took over. and When KT Ong took over the newspaper played up his stature by saying he is a non confrontational person and a great strategist who prefer to work behind the scene and this will work well as the 2nd largest component party in BN.</p>
<p>Now I comprehend.  As the racist comments increased in volumes and frequency the less this Ong guy has anything to say. </p>
<p>Work behind the scene .. definitely but is very obvious not for the good of what MCA is supposedly standing for. I think some of the more true blue MCA presidents must be having nightmares seeing how the original spirit of MCA is being slowly but surely eroded and destroy by a couple of gutless imbecile masquerading as the people representative.</p>
<p>But anyway, communal politics has no place in today world neither is religion based politics. As such, as a Malaysian(first) and a chinese I dont see nor believe that MCA is relevant today. </p>
<p>On the other hand, going by what Ong is harping on &#8211; they are actually a hazard to their believer. He is not standing for dignity for the people whom he is supposedly representing but on how to kow tow and be subservient so that the 2 or 3% of chinese up there can continue getting the crumbs dropping off the bandwagon. The rest of the chinese can very well fend for themselves.</p>
<p>I do hope PKR or DAP could muster enough strength to help change the current political landscape. </p>
<p>All I ever wanted is good governance, the rule of law, freedom of speech and information, freedom to be a Malaysian and not a Chinese Malaysian or a bumi. </p>
<p>All i wanted is fairness, a good economy, a good leader who believes in integrity and transparency and not skin color or who you know.</p>
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